It’s Putin vs Bandar Bush on the Syrian chessboard

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RT Moscow Op-Edge 15th December, 2013 – It’s Putin vs Bandar Bush on the Syrian chessboard

Everyone remembers the spectacular four-and-a-half hour meeting last August in Moscow between President Putin and Bandar Bush – aka Bandar bin Sultan, Saudi Arabia’s Director of National Intelligence.

Well, there was a remix last week, also in Moscow. And once again in absolute secrecy, until a formidable leak from “a close and reliable source” in Russia reached Lebanese newspaper al-Manar.

Bandar Bush’s first offensive was a disaster; not only did Putin rebuff his attempt to “bribe” Moscow into abandoning Damascus, but subsequently Russia was pivotal in preventing the Obama administration from bombing Syria.

… President Putin’s answer can be summarized as a model of restraint. The “opposition” armed and financed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar is on a losing streak. Saudi support for the opposition has nothing to do with democracy; these “rebels” are in fact terrorists.

Neither Damascus nor Moscow needs Saudi funds to rebuild Syria; Russia, Iran and China will do the job. Moreover, Russia and the US reached an understanding that takfiri terrorism is a danger not only to American security, but to Russian and global security. The Europeans – fearful of returnee terrorists – also agree.

As the cherry on the sundae, Putin suggested to Bandar Bush to abandon “sectarian instigations and supporting terrorism, because it is a double edged sword that will rebound inside Saudi Arabia and gather momentum in a manner that you will not be able to control.”

Much more at link – http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-putin-bandar-saudi-263/

40 thoughts on “It’s Putin vs Bandar Bush on the Syrian chessboard

  1. Wheels within wheels, AA. The mess in the ME is like a cocktail of random chemicals. Who knows what toxic effects will emerge? It’s an absolute son-of-a-bitch figuring the players and their theoretics. The easiest course for me is just to distrust all of them…without exception.

  2. For anyone wondering, and even for those who haven’t, I’ve been a bit under the weather lately so my comment frequency’s been down a bit. Feeling much better and more or less back to normal now (viral stomach infection – these things get around this time of year), so normal service should be resumed soon 🙂

  3. Ahhhhgggg…… wrote a 20 mins on topic there only to close effin tab by misstook…

    So now where the fk was i…

    Ben, they certainly do not deserve you’re trust. But they ( elite) don’t care ( 9/11 )
    They have themselves so well protected in the Police state, and they Own the Propaganda criminals of the MSM…

    Then the Smug B£$%&rds turn up at Mandela’s Memorial day in S.F….. Scream.

    The stories that were coming out of Libya were Horrible, but from Syria it’s been worse…Heartbreaking what our so called leaders are getting away with…

    Stop the War Coalition have a take on it from yesterday

    The US, Britain and France do not have many options left except to try to control the jihadi Frankenstein’s monster that they helped create in Syria and which is already helping destabilise Iraq and Lebanon. Turkey may soon regret having given free passage to so many jihadi on their way to Syria. Ankara could close its 500-mile border with Syria or filter those who cross it. But Turkish policy in Syria and Iraq has been so dysfunctional in the past three years that it may be too late to correct the consequences of wrongly convincing itself that Assad would fall.

    The Geneva II peace conference on Syria looks as if it will be born dead. In so far as the FSA and its civilian counterparts ever represented anyone in Syria they do so no longer. The armed opposition is dominated by Saudi-sponsored Islamist brigades on the one hand and by al-Qa’ida affiliates on the other.

    http://stopwar.org.uk/news/britain-s-policy-on-syria-has-just-been-sunk-and-nobody-noticed#.Uq5PZdJdWqi

    And recently from the U.N…..a report here with the U.N wording on the Chem attacks….

    On Thursday the 12th of December, the U.N. team investigating the persistent reports of alleged chemical weapons usage in Syria released their findings.

    http://interventionswatch.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/release-of-latest-u-n-report-on-alleged-cw-use-in-syria-strangely-low-key/

    Lastly from Global research….

    RT’s Meghan Lopez speaks with Mother Agnes-Mariam de la Croix, founder of the James the Mutilated Monastery in Syria, who says that the videos show the chemical weapons were used by Syrian rebels, not the Assad administration.

    http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2013/12/foreign-forces-need-stop-fueling-violence-syria

  4. ‘viral stomach infection’. Was that a physicians diagnosis, AA? Virus may preceed a bacterial infection. Is that what you meant? They are really pushing back on antibiotics these days, so you have to bully your Dr. into giving you a prescrip.

  5. brian; Cheers, dood. It looks like you’re trying to cram a days worth of news into an evening.

    AA; BTW, did you know LIVE garlic is THE best anti-biotic as well as anti-inflammatory? If you can’t stand it raw, saute as little as possible in some OO or grass=fed butter…..smoosh and put on anything you wish that’s savory, not sweet/

  6. AA; Your immune system is your friend. After antibiotics, get some probiotics to re-establish the beneficial organisms in your gut. Research is showing the gut to play a central role in the immunology of the body. Fresh ginger, fresh garlic cannot be overdone. As for the social part of garlic; it is overrated as a negative. It’s the powdered garlic imposter that commits the most sins.

  7. BTW; As to eating fresh garlic, the only complaint I ever received was from my beloved Sue. This was after I ate 25-30 whole cloves of roasted garlic with a coating of olive oil and sea salt at a buffet. Even at that, I think she imagined it because when sees a cheeseburger ad on TeeVee she swears she smells it. 🙂

  8. A large UN appeal is launched.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25398012

    The UN – Lady Amos et al. She is a hypocrite (see below) and now has a niche in the UN.

    A Mark Schnellbaecher from Miliband D’s International Rescue Committee was interviewed on BBC News earlier and was followed by Lyse Doucet. By inference the creation of refugees is all Assad’s fault. No mention of the rebels and their backers or of the Cameron/Hague attempt to perform another Libya style invasion earlier in the year which would have had catastrophic results.

    Craig’s take on Amos – NuLab Freeloaders Steal From The Starving
    May 3, 2009
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/05/nulab_freeloade/

    Enough said. She also gets a mention here.

    Sir Michael Wood Damns Blair, Straw and Croney Goldsmith
    January 26, 2010
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/01/sir_michael_woo_1/

  9. Squonk, good to see you back, and I wish you a speedy recovery. Thanks for that snippet of the other side’s propaganda…

    …anyone know how our side’s propaganda is handling the same event? Has it even been mentioned?

    Mary, thank you for making use of the valuable resource of Craig’s blog. I wish that others would follow your example.

  10. I remember Press TV (Iran) and DEBKA (Israel) both carried the same story (a year or so ago) that Bandar Bush had been assassinated. It fascinated me that DEBKA and Press TV both carried the same story. It doubly fascinated me that Google filtered out DEBKA’s and PressTV’s story from their news search results at the time. Both still appeared in appropriate “web” searches but not “news” searches. Google normally includes DEBKA and PressTV in news search results so these stories were explicitly filtered out.

    It is very rare to see DEBKA and PressTV carry the same story. It is even rarer for Google “news” index to filter out a story from both organisations. I can’t think of another occasion the triple combination happened.

  11. The situation in Gaza is the worst for many years and that is saying something. They have overflowing sewage, floods from the recent storm, shortages of fuel and hence of electricity and of food and medical supplies.

    Gazans Suffer Genocide under the Israeli-Egyptian Siege
    by Dylan Murphy / December 17th, 2013
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/gazans-suffer-genocide-under-the-israeli-egyptian-siege/

    PS They are Palestinians who live in Gaza, not ‘Gazans’.

    A different report with photos.

    Gaza drowning …and under power and media blackout
    http://ingaza.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/gaza-drowning-and-under-power-and-media-blackout/

    The poor people.

  12. Copying it AA. Hope you don’t mind. The link works strangely.

    An Open Letter to the People of Brazil
    By Edward Snowden
    Source: Folha De S. Paulo
    Tuesday, December 17, 2013

    Six months ago, I stepped out from the shadows of the United States Government’s National Security Agency to stand in front of a journalist’s camera.

    I shared with the world evidence proving some governments are building a world-wide surveillance system to secretly track how we live, who we talk to, and what we say.

    I went in front of that camera with open eyes, knowing that the decision would cost me family and my home, and would risk my life. I was motivated by a belief that the citizens of the world deserve to understand the system in which they live.

    My greatest fear was that no one would listen to my warning. Never have I been so glad to have been so wrong. The reaction in certain countries has been particularly inspiring to me, and Brazil is certainly one of those.

    At the NSA, I witnessed with growing alarm the surveillance of whole populations without any suspicion of wrongdoing, and it threatens to become the greatest human rights challenge of our time.

    The NSA and other spying agencies tell us that for our own “safety”-for Dilma’s “safety,” for Petrobras’ “safety”-they have revoked our right to privacy and broken into our lives. And they did it without asking the public in any country, even their own.

    Today, if you carry a cell phone in Sao Paolo, the NSA can and does keep track of your location: they do this 5 billion times a day to people around the world.

    When someone in Florianopolis visits a website, the NSA keeps a record of when it happened and what you did there. If a mother in Porto Alegre calls her son to wish him luck on his university exam, NSA can keep that call log for five years or more.

    They even keep track of who is having an affair or looking at pornography, in case they need to damage their target’s reputation.

    American Senators tell us that Brazil should not worry, because this is not “surveillance,” it’s “data collection.” They say it is done to keep you safe. They’re wrong.

    There is a huge difference between legal programs, legitimate spying, legitimate law enforcement – where individuals are targeted based on a reasonable, individualized suspicion – and these programs of dragnet mass surveillance that put entire populations under an all-seeing eye and save copies forever.

    These programs were never about terrorism: they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power.

    Many Brazilian senators agree, and have asked for my assistance with their investigations of suspected crimes against Brazilian citizens.

    I have expressed my willingness to assist wherever appropriate and lawful, but unfortunately the United States government has worked very hard to limit my ability to do so — going so far as to force down the Presidential Plane of Evo Morales to prevent me from traveling to Latin America!

    Until a country grants permanent political asylum, the US government will continue to interfere with my ability to speak.

    Six months ago, I revealed that the NSA wanted to listen to the whole world. Now, the whole world is listening back, and speaking out, too. And the NSA doesn’t like what it’s hearing.

    The culture of indiscriminate worldwide surveillance, exposed to public debates and real investigations on every continent, is collapsing.

    Only three weeks ago, Brazil led the United Nations Human Rights Committee to recognize for the first time in history that privacy does not stop where the digital network starts, and that the mass surveillance of innocents is a violation of human rights.

    The tide has turned, and we can finally see a future where we can enjoy security without sacrificing our privacy. Our rights cannot be limited by a secret organization, and American officials should never decide the freedoms of Brazilian citizens.

    Even the defenders of mass surveillance, those who may not be persuaded that our surveillance technologies have dangerously outpaced democratic controls, now agree that in democracies, surveillance of the public must be debated by the public.

    My act of conscience began with a statement: “I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded.

    That’s not something I’m willing to support, it’s not something I’m willing to build, and it’s not something I’m willing to live under.”

    Days later, I was told my government had made me stateless and wanted to imprison me. The price for my speech was my passport, but I would pay it again: I will not be the one to ignore criminality for the sake of political comfort. I would rather be without a state than without a voice.

    If Brazil hears only one thing from me, let it be this: when all of us band together against injustices and in defense of privacy and basic human rights, we can defend ourselves from even the most powerful systems.

    http://www.zcommunications.org/an-open-letter-to-the-people-of-brazil-by-edward-snowden.html

  13. RIP Dr el Sarraj, He did much for his fellow Palestinians and their children.

    Dr. Eyad el-Sarraj
    http://mitchellplitnick.com/2013/12/17/dr-eyad-el-sarraj/

    Some background –

    (Dr) el-Sarraj was born in Beersheba, Mandatory Palestine on 27 April 1944 to a Palestinian Arab Muslim family. His family arrived in the Gaza Strip as refugees in 1948 and they were never allowed to return home.[2]

    On 29 June 2009 Dr el-Sarraj appeared before the United Nations fact finding mission into Operation Cast Lead. He appeared as a witness on behalf of the “Gaza Community Mental Health Programme.” He stated that 20% of the children in Gaza suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorders. His evidence is quoted in the final report, known as the Goldstone Report.[3][4]

    The “Gaza Community Mental Health Programme” (GCMHP) (which) was founded by Dr el-Sarraj has 40 members of staff. Its premises were destroyed on 30 December (2008) in an Israeli Air Force air-strike.

    Dr el-Sarraj is President of Faculty for Israeli-Palestinian Peace International, a network of Palestinian, Israeli, and International faculty, and students, working in for an end of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and just peace.[1]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyad_al-Sarraj

  14. A disaffected and angry postie. The capitalist friends of the ConDems have gone off with the profits from the privatisation and there are more to come from property sales.

    The privatised Royal Mail will get a Christmas bonanza – but not us posties
    Goodwill among delivery workers is in short supply. After years of being sidelined and ignored, I’m refusing to put in overtime
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/18/privatised-royal-mail-christmas-posties-delivery-overtime

    Share price today £5.75 Issue price £3.30

    His blog is good. http://roymayall.wordpress.com/
    I like the pun in his pen name, Roy Mayall.

  15. Anybody else on Yahoo mail? Bloody thing is down. There’s masses of stuff on the internet about it, going back several days. Mine comes via BT Broadband and I have just had such a polite Indian man from their call centre apologizing profusely. I was not rude and thanked him for trying to help. I bet the poor things are getting abuse all round.

  16. I get this nonsense each time I try to get on. Really annoying. There is a emoticon thing with it with a downturned mouth.

    WE’RE

    SORRY

    You can’t access your inbox at the moment,
    but our engineering team is working hard to
    get things back to normal.

    Please visit @yahoomail on Twitter for updates.

  17. Over the rainbow to The Emerald City!

    The man without a heart, Iain ‘Tin Man’ Duncan Smith, slips out from the green benches. Motormouth Esther ‘Munchkin’ McVey stays behind and steps in for him. Jeering and booing from the Tories when Fiona McTaggart speaks.

    What was she trying to say? That the number of food banks has doubled in a year and people are fighting in supermarkets over cheap food. Shame on the Tories and their mates on the LibDem benches.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/food-banks-debate-video-iain-2941100#.UrKbrq9FDSc

    Meanwhile I was cheered to receive my usual greeting card from the P of Wales and his Croc wife. It shows such a happy festive theme.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25438254

  18. Well, well! As if!

    UK ‘was inappropriately involved in rendition’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25445869

    Clarke to an near empty ‘House of Commons’.

    Craig’s takes

    Will Sir Peter Gibson Live to Inquire?
    Nov 16th 2011
    William Hague today is giving a speech saying that he wishes to “Draw a line” under the question of UK complicity in torture. It is hard to do that when the intelligence services remain today complicit in torture. The British government still gets intelligence from torture from Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Gambia, […]
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/11/will-sir-peter-gibson-live-to-inquire/

    The Gibson Inquiry – Wilfully Blind?
    Sep 8th 2011
    Wilful blindness – or worse? The credibility of the Gibson Inquiry into UK government complicity in torture seems to me to fall by the minute. The following facts seem to me almost unbelievable. Government departments, including the FCO and MI6, are supposed to have already given Gibson all relevant documents so the inquiry can read […]
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/09/the-gibson-inquiry-wilfully-blind/

  19. From the same BBC link

    Gordon Corera
    Security correspondent, BBC News

    ‘Few expected the amount of detail that Sir Peter Gibson has provided in his report.

    It MAY may be unfinished but it raises serious issues – 27 in all – ranging from Britain’s role in rendition to what ministers were told and WHETHER they asked enough questions.

    Campaigners had raised questions about Sir Peter’s independence.

    Those MAY now have been answered but the next issue is WHETHER the Intelligence and Security Committee will be able to get to the truth.

    One of the issues Sir Peter raises in his report is WHETHER the committee was given enough information for its previous inquiries into the subject which did not get close to the truth.

    The ISC says it does have more powers now to investigate but it faces a significant task in trying to deal with allegations the prime minister has described as a stain on the country’s reputation.’

    ~~~

    My capitals. Corera skirts around the issue and does not tell us anything.

    Strangely no comments on Medialens.

    It’s a little like Harold Pinter’s ‘It never happened’… There is no comment apart from the BBC link and these in the Torygraph and Guardian.

    ‘MI6 officers told to ignore Geneva convention breaches, Gibson report finds
    British intelligence officers were told to ignore evidence of breaches of the Geneva convention when detainees from Iraq and Afghanistan were being interrogated in 2002, a report by the aborted inquiry into alleged British complicity in torture has found.’
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10528353/MI6-officers-told-to-ignore-Geneva-convention-breaches-Gibson-report-finds.html

    ‘Rendition inquiry finds questions about UK involvement remain unanswered
    Sir Peter Gibson highlights rendition of two Libyans to Tripoli and says allegations ‘plainly required investigation’;
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/19/rendition-inquiry-questions-uk-involvement-unanswered

  20. Ooh-er!

    19 December 2013
    Afghan Heroes charity faces funds probe
    Conservative MP Liam Fox has stepped down as patron of Afghan Heroes after a “breakdown in trust”

    Former Defence Secretary Liam Fox has resigned as patron of an armed forces charity after discovering it is under investigation.

    Somerset-based Afghan Heroes is being scrutinised by the Charity Commission for possible financial misconduct.

    The North Somerset MP said he had not been made aware of an investigation and could no longer act as patron because of a “breakdown in trust”.

    The charity helps former armed forces personnel and their families.

    It has not commented on Dr Fox’s resignation.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-25416125

    This one presumably – Afghan Heroes Charity No 1132340

    TO SUPPORT BRITISH FORCES SERVING IN THE THEATRE OF WAR
    TO SUPPORT THE FAMILIES OF FALLEN SOLDIERS
    TO SUPPORT OUR RETURNING SOLDIERS
    TO SUPPORT WOUNDED SOLDIERS
    TO ESTABLISH A POST SERVICES FACILITY FOR OUR MEDICALLY DISCHARGED SERVICE PERSONNEL WHEREBY THEY WILL HAVE A BASE TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES AND CAREER

    http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/find-charities/

    http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/18/500000-raised-for-troops-but-only-15000-paid-out-by-charity-4236155/

  21. Hi All

    I know that not everyone is a George.G fan, but i like they way he Puts points over Somtimes…here he paints the picture on Syrial ( i think the whole Video is sound in facts Ect..but the surreal situation in Syria – kicks in, in this video at 7 :00 mins…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi_YHxMomds

  22. This man is Pavel Pechyonkin born in the Mari El region and who joined resistance forces in 2012.

    He is the the trolleybus suicide bomber.

    According to this FSB information, Pechyonkin, aged 32, is a former paramedic. In 2012, he joined the bandit underground, having left a note for his mother on his lap top computer. Pechyonkin has since communicated with his parents two or three times via the Internet.

    Pechyonkin was in Islamic rebel held territories of Syria controlled and funded by Saudi Arabia.

    On the 27 August 2013 Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a massive strike against Saudi Arabia if the UK and America attacked Syria.

    In response Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

    When Putin refused Prince Bandar’s ‘offer,’ the DailyTelegraph reported that Prince Bandar had stated to Putin, “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”

    Bandar then came to the Kremlin in August 2013 and in a secret meeting with Putin reiterated his threat to cause terror in Russia to which Putin suggested to the Saudis that they abandon “sectarian instigations and supporting terrorism, because it is a double edged sword that will rebound inside Saudi Arabia and gather momentum in a manner that you will not be able to control.”

    2014 will show us the ‘Bear’ is not amused!”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531254/Was-Volograd-train-station-suicide-bomber-Russian-paramedic-converted-Islam-joined-terrorist-cell.html

  23. In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:

    “I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.

    This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate”

    I found the original interview, in French, on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz-s2AAh06I

  24. Mark Golding January 1, 2014 at 5:50 pm
    “2014 will show us the ‘Bear’ is not amused!””

    I wonder how good a call that threat seems to Bandar now. Or maybe he really does have the control he boasted of. I guess there’s always a chance he said no such thing and this will justify some future Russian action.

    It’s Springtime for Bandar and House of Saud. Arabia is happy and gay.

  25. On January 22, so-called Geneva II peace talks are scheduled to begin. Mid-2012 Geneva I talks ended in failure. Washington prevented success.

    Talks were called a “last ditch effort” to halt violence. Similar rhetoric followed Kofi Annan’s one-sided peace plan.

    It placed the conflict ending burden on Assad. It did so unfairly. Western backed death squads bear full responsibility.

    Since conflict erupted, Assad’s been wrongfully blamed for their crimes. He’s more victim than villain.

    Washington wants him ousted. It wants him prevented from defending his people. If not him, who will?

    Obama, complicit NATO partners, Israel, and rogue regional despots want him toppled. They want him out violently. Peaceful resolution is smoke screen deception….

    On January 8, Russia blocked Washington’s latest Security Council effort. It wrongfully blame Assad.

    One-sided SC language condemned him for attacking Western-backed death squads in Aleppo.

    On December 19, Moscow vetoed a draft Aleppo bombing statement. It wrongfully blamed Assad. He’s defending his people. He’s acting responsibly.

    He’s battling Western-backed death squads. He’s defending ordinary Syrians. Washington disgracefully calls him a “brutal dictator.”

    On January 7, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki wrongfully accused him of “kill(ing) tens of thousands of his people.”

    He’s “not someone that we see a future for in…Syria,” she added. “You know what our focus is,” she claimed. It’s “bringing an end to the suffering and bloodshed of the Syrian people.”

    It bears repeating. Washington bears full responsibility. Assad is doing his job. He’s doing what any leader would do.

    He’s fighting terrorism. He’s battling death squad invaders. They’ve committed horrific atrocities. Western media largely ignore them. Assad is blamed for their crimes.

    Expect Washington to manipulate planned Geneva II talks. Psaki stressed “putting a transitional government in place.”

    Talks aren’t about peaceful conflict resolution. They’re for regime change. Syrians alone may decide who’ll lead them.

    Washington wants them denied. America’s agenda alone matters. National sovereignty doesn’t count. Nor do rule of law principles. US policy makers violate them consistently.

    No nation operates more lawlessly than America. None does so more egregiously. None causes more harm. Washington does it globally.

    Ravaging one nation after another is longstanding US policy. So is blaming victims for its crimes. Assad is in the eye of the storm. Iran’s turn is next.

    Congressional hawks want war, not peace. Obama blocked Tehran’s Geneva II participation. According to Psaki:

    “Iran has done nothing but help (Assad), help bring foreign fighters in, help the regime’s efforts to brutalize the Syrian people.”

    “And if they wanted to send a message to the world about their seriousness of having a positive outcome, there are steps they could take.”

    “There’s no indication that they have any desire or interest in taking any of these steps.”

    “(U)nless Iran endorses, supports, (and) embraces the Geneva (II) communique, we wouldn’t support their attendance.”

    Washington wants its language blaming Assad for ongoing conflict. It wants transitional government approved. It wants pro-Western stooges in charge.

    It wants Syrians having no say. When Geneva I ended, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said:

    “Assad will still have to go. What we have done here is to strip away the fiction that he and those with blood on their hands can stay in power.”

    Shameless copy paste job Squonk… Hope you all don’t mind… Anyhoo more from this Piece @

    http://sjlendman.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/obama-sabotaging-syrian-peace.html

  26. This is good news even if the warmonger Gates doesn’t think so.

    ‘Cuts to the UK’s armed forces will limit the country’s ability to be a major player on the world stage, a former US defence secretary has warned. ‘

    Military cuts mean ‘no US partnership’, Robert Gates warns
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25754870

    Let this dying and evil UK empire break free from the US evil empire.

    He’s flogging a book but who cares? http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-gawthorpe-gates-book-20140116,0,3042378.story#axzz2qXCRhn1Z

    Heard of this below on the World Service. Applies to their personnel based here.
    Air Force Secretary: 37 Nuclear Missile Launch Officers Involved In Drug, Cheating Scandal
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/air-force-cheating-scandal_n_4603965.html

    Have you noticed that the helicopter crash at Cley has completely disappeared off the ‘news’? ‘It never happened’ etc etc.

  27. Not sure Where this post belongs i’ll opt for this thread….

    Kerry insisted the U.S. had solid intelligence on the locations of the Syrian government’s launch sites used in the attack, thus justifying a U.S. military retaliation which was only narrowly averted. Now, those U.S. government’s claims have collapsed

    KERRY – “And read for yourselves the verdict, reached by our intelligence community about the chemical weapons attack the Assad regime inflicted on the opposition and on opposition controlled or contested neighborhoods in the Damascus suburbs on the early morning of August 21st.”

    KERRY – ” Our intelligence community has carefully reviewed and re-reviewed information regarding this attack. And I will tell you it has done so more than mindful of the Iraq experience. We will not repeat that moment. Accordingly, we have taken unprecedented steps to declassify and make facts available to people who can judge for themselves.” ( Facts made available….utter shite )

    Kerry – “Well, we know that the Assad regime has the largest chemical weapons programs in the entire Middle East. We know that the regime has used those weapons multiple times this year, and has used them on a smaller scale but still it has used them against its own people, including not very far from where last Wednesday’s attack happened” ( Endless evil lies)

    KERRY “We know where the rockets were launched from, and at what time. We know where they landed, and when. We know rockets came only from regime-controlled areas and went only to opposition-controlled or contested neighborhoods.”

    KERRY “Instead of being tucked safely in their beds at home, we saw rows of children lying side by side, sprawled on a hospital floor, all of them dead from Assad’s gas and surrounded by parents and grandparents who had suffered the same fate.”

    KERRY ” The United States government now knows that at least 1,429 Syrians were killed in this attack, including at least 426 children. Even the first-responders, the doctors, nurses and medics who tried to save them, they became victims themselves. We saw them gasping for air, terrified that their own lives were in danger.
    This is the indiscriminate, inconceivable horror of chemical weapons. This is what Assad did to his own people.”

    ( LIES Lies Lies, the evil shit just goes on and on – @

    Kerry – “We know this”.
    ” these are facts”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/running-transcript-secretary-of-state-john-kerrys-remarks-on-syria-on-aug-30/2013/08/30/f3a63a1a-1193-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html

    Secretary of State John Kerry misled the American people last summer when he assured them that the U.S. government knew for a fact that the Syrian government was responsible for the Aug. 21 Sarin gas attack outside Damascus, an incident that killed several hundred people and nearly prompted a U.S. military assault.

    A NEW REPORT BY TWO AMERICAN WEAPONS SPECIALISTS, entitled “Possible Implications of Faulty US Technical Intelligence in the Damascus Nerve Agent Attack,” makes clear that the case presented by Kerry and the Obama administration was scientifically impossible because the range of the key rocket carrying Sarin was less than a third of what the U.S. government was claiming.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-false-u-s-intelligence-on-sarin-gas-the-mistaken-guns-of-last-august/5365584

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