The General Discussion Thread

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Okay as an experiment here it is. Discuss your favourite generals here!

Well perhaps… Really this is simply the place to post news-items, fun-items or whatever takes your fancy. In short just post what you want here.

It’s just another wee experiment – comments welcome.

Squonk.

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  1. OMG, Beswick’s discovered Squonk’s blog.

    Good luck, Squonk, you’ll need it!

    However, una rondine non fa’ primavera.

    And to continue on an optimistic note, now that Macks is in full flow on CM again perhaps there’ll be less of him on here.

  2. Macks

    You are really too kind :).

    Tell me – is it true what Clark said about you inciting Sharp Ears in her Israel-hating proclivities?

    BTW – how many blogs do you infest?

  3. Clark is just as much a shameless serial habitual liar as you are Habba-Clown;

    It truly disgusting that all the Tories have sold their sold for shekels, not one Conservative MP has signed this Early Day Motion.

    Military detention of Palestinian children by Israeli authorities
    http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2017-19/563

    Richard Burden is the prime mover. A good man. He was joined by five other MPs – 3 Labour, 1 LD and 1SNP.

    ‘The EDM begins by noting “with concern that hundreds of Palestinian children continue to be arrested, detained and tried in Israeli military courts, despite the practice involving widespread and systematic violations of international law and being widely condemned.”

    The motion also notes “allegations of ill-treatment at the hands of Israeli authorities include blindfolding, physical violence and arrest at night”, and “the disparity between the treatment of Israeli and Palestinian children by Israeli authorities”.

    The MPs urge Israeli authorities “to treat Palestinian children in a way that is not inferior to the way they would any Israeli child”, noting that “as the occupying power in the West Bank, Israel has a responsibility under international human rights conventions for the safety, welfare and human rights protection of Palestinian children living under occupation”.’

  4. Macky

    You stole that post from CM, didn’t you. Now run off and make sure you get it onto the other blogs you infest.

  5. @Peter Beswick, I saw that your reply to SA on the 911 Thread got promply deleted, if you didn’t keep a copy, I have because I wanted to read about & look-up Folie à deux !

  6. Macks

    “@Habba-Clown, actually no I didn’t, I got it from an ever excellent Poster at LNB”
    _________________

    Liar ! You got it from your wet nurse “Sharp Ears” (CM, 24th Nov, 13h21, page 7)

    You shall henceforth be known as MacLies 🙂

  7. Cheers Macky

    It’s a pity the Folies wander the earth with no apparent purpose other to be as unpleasant as they can to as many as they can. Its a hobby I guess.

    Your stalker here (and there) has got so little self esteem, small penis (whatever its gender) and no friends, is not someone you would want to look after farm animals but on here s/he’s safe enough.

    Imagine having nothing else in life to do, but hone complete self-hatred and despair just being horrible to people. Projecting frustrations and anxieties for the world to see, onto the people who they want to impress but who laugh and snigger at the clumsy cries for attention. All in the belief that they are furthering the cause of the faith’s global leader.

    What a waste of a life but just think how much harmful the stalker could be if he they actually secured a position looking after farm animals, do you think the authorities would have to alert the police in the area? And the butchers – I wouldn’t want to eat that meat.

    No thanks, I am sure the CM mods need my comments more than I do. And they get recorded elsewhere. In an ICO appeal I made over a rejected FOIA Thames Valley Police provided more than 500 pages of A4 of comments that I and various old socks had made, the purpose was to provide evidence that I was vexatious. Unfortunately for the police the law requires the FOIR to be vexatious and not the person making it.

    In the event I was found vexatious by a Court that had no power to make that judgement but the FOI Request was found to be fine. The information was however still withheld.

    500 pages I kid you not. If your stalker wants to provide his details I will post them to him for his files on your associates.

  8. @Peter, guess I’m lucky in that I have at least two stalkers ! 😀

    Your analysis of how the dynamics works between the Folies & the CT’s was spot-on, so rather a shame it was deleted.

    Hope you’re not on pre-Mod again !

  9. LOL ! I’ve got to save Glenn’s 911 Post rant before it disappears, as nobody will believe how delusional he’s becoming !:

    “So – conspirator theorists – it looks like despite being ganged up on 10-1, the entire thread got deleted because I was kicking your arses up and down the field a little too hard.

    The PTB want everyone to go soft on you, clearly, so you can sow confusion and disinformation among yourselves, the last thing the PTB wants is a reality check from the likes of me.

    So while there’s all sorts of silly disputes going on that’s fine. But the moment someone starts knocking sense into your silly, empty heads – that’s when the hammer comes down.

    It’s all becoming a lot more clear – you poor, played fools.”

    Looks like the men in white coats have another customer !

  10. I didn’t know what PTB meant so I looked it up

    https://www.internetslang.com/PTB-meaning-definition.asp

    I guess in this instance it is meant to mean Powers That Be

    But who are the PTB? Are they Craig and his gang?

    Whoever they are they are powerful and get what they want. And what they want is is for the 911 thread to be a mine of confusion and disinformation sown by people who get their bottoms kicked (up and down the field – hard) by Glen.

    And Glen is obedient to the PTB, and it came to pass that when they brought their hammer down Glen stopped kicking bottoms and just as he started to knock sense into silly heads ……. he showed mercy and dutifully followed the order to retreat!

    Because that was the secret instruction from the PTB and the signal for Glen to gloat over his triumph over the silly people.

    Glen is given a further message from the PTB that it is time that their glory, power and design to be revealed to the Silly People so we too can go on bended knee and do their bidding.

    Macky I think you might be being unfair to Glen on this, what bit of it precisely are you suggesting is delusional? Sources, Quotes, References and Dates Please!!

  11. @Peter, LOL! 😀 Your sarcasm is a lot better then Glenn’s aggressive & twisted kind !

    PTB = The Elites/Government/those in control etc

    Anyhow goodnight from me !

  12. Good night /

    Good morning Macky

    Apologies for doubting you but I have been a bit unsettled over in the other place

    Clark annonces he too is a conspiracy theorist, then Glen and now SA.

    Who the fuck do they think they are?

  13. Habbabkuk, November 23, 9:44 am:

    “I wonder if you would agree that this appears to be one of those bits of nasty (anti-semitic) hint and innuendo to which you’ve referred a couple of times?”

    Very probably not. I have never found Sharp Ears to be anti-Semitic. I have found Sharp Ears to be attentive and observant. I respect Sharp Ears a great deal.

    By contrast, people like Macky and “The Saker” have a detrimental effect upon Russia’s reputation.

  14. I know who I am, oh He Who May Not Be Named. It’s you that seems to have had something of an identity crisis recently.

    You’re a conspiracy theorist, Pete me love. You think that a bunch of spherical cow calculations might somehow make the aircraft disappear. That’ll get your sphincter licked all day long by Macky, so I hope you happen to like that sort of thing.

    PS; I genuinely was abused in childhood, so careful what abuse YOU aim at me; OK Mr Sock?

  15. It’s known that those abused when young, often grow into the worst abusers later; you only have to consider Clark’s language, choice of imagery, full-on temper tantrums, etc, etc, to realise that sadly that is the case here.

  16. @Peter, as I expected, Glenn’s embarrassing delusions, verging on a public breakdown, have been removed; Glenn should be very thankful to the Mods for that.

  17. That’s exactly what I expected of you, vile Macky. Unlike you, I don’t use a false identity on the Internet. You’re a cowardly liar who pedals bunk to fracture the peace movement, and you won’t even speak out against anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.

  18. Quite Macky, the Mods are very considerate to Clark and Glen in the other place I think it was a good idea of yours to save the recent delusional unravelling not for evidential purposes but just for entertainment value.

    OK now Clark you have come after me on here but you have forgotten that you are not teacher’s pet here and you are far more vulnerable.

    Just so you’re straight I will tell you what I think.

    I think you are seriously mentally ill and I think you make things worse for yourself by posting on blogs particularly CM.

    I think CM has a personal responsibility, him knowing full well your psychotic behaviour is exacerbated by your disturbed blog habits.

    911 needs discussing openly and will be, you have set yourself up as policeman of the discussion content on CM and that has led to a worsening of your problems and the thread’s output. You cannot control the 911 debate, it will happen without you, you are insignificant to it, your contribution to the 911 topic has no value not because of what you think but the way you say it (incidentally what you think is badly fucked up)

    So Above:
    “ It’s you that seems to have had something of an identity crisis recently.”
    “You’re a conspiracy theorist, Pete me love”
    “You think that a bunch of spherical cow calculations might somehow make the aircraft disappear.”
    “That’ll get your sphincter licked all day long by Macky, so I hope you happen to like that sort of thing.”
    “PS; I genuinely was abused in childhood, so careful what abuse YOU aim at me;”
    “OK Mr Sock?”

    OK Mr fucking sock? I created those access id’s because I got barred from the CM blog. I got barred for replying politely to your disgusting abusive attack on me by asking you not to include me in your hysterical unravelling. Your response to that was more directed sick diatribe.

    My polite objection was removed and I was barred leaving your deranged and depraved comment to continue to libel me.
    You then apologised and when I indicated I would leave you alone you retracted the apology.
    I used false name to disrupt and challenge those events.

    If you abuse me once more on here (or anywhere else )I will go back to the CM blog and make sure there is no meaningful output (hmmm!) for the next …………. as long as I decide .

    So now you have told me what I am in your twisted opinion

    I will tell you two things

    1) I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON 911, I WANT TO FIND OUT
    2) You have been treated with kid gloves because of your mental illness that has made things worse for you. Stay clear of me and you will hear nothing further from me; the alternative is I will keep telling you the extremely unpleasant truth about yourself.

    Get help, get a life. Please!

  19. Monday, the jury on the federal trial of Libyan Abu Ahmer Khattala begins its deliberations of a convenient murder charge of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and others to finally lay to rest a 31-year long series of Anglo-American snafus, starting with the assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme, the unsuccessful attempts to blame it on Libyan leader Gaddafi, the Lockerbie plane disaster, attempts by Khattala’s Libyan Islamic Fighting Group to kill him, the murder of Yale student Suzanne Jovin to keep covered up the al-Qaeda attacks planned for 9/11, its suicide bombings, the unexpected killings of Stevens et al. to keep the planned killing of Gaddafi going, and the resulting Libyan disaster.

    It has to be the longest series of disasters in history. One could write a book series about the snafus. (meaning Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.).

  20. THF

    You deserve an award for your selfless pursuit of Conspiracy Theories so I am going to give you a personal reward for efforts in that field and for calling me an “old wind bag” (payback time) but as you see whilst I am magnanimous you remain a magna anus.

    Q. Why was Gaddafi’s head of security (including overall security of the Harem) chosen to take the fall for Lockerbie?
    A. Loyalty? Or ……………

    http://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/MUGSHOTS/MUGSHOTS_NEW/gaddafi_saif_400x301.jpg

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4B-0dLHZ197FcN8griG_Bb-y9L5vcdYyx3BguW5KuO3dXckkv

  21. It was cheaper economically to confess to the crime rather than fight with the MI6 and CIA, especially over intra-serverice disputes. SIS was worried about leaker Annie Machon, and the Agency about Syrian arms dealer Monzar al-Kassar.

    And photographs explain nothing on their own, you old wind bag.

  22. Clark

    ” I have found Sharp Ears to be attentive and observant. ”

    __________________

    and you could add “obsessive”……

    Remember how she used to lose no opportunity of telling us how person X or person Y was married to someone of the Jewish faith or had a Jewish grandparent or had Jewish friends?

    Thank God the the CM mods cracked down on her – we don’t see that sort of anti-semitic garbage any more and CM is a slightly cleaner place for it!

  23. Bit premature and wrong, Habby as I see several posts from Clear Eyes today on CM.

    She is not just another spy conveniently disposed of by UK intelligence as if she were another ‘Clarabela’ just parachuted in.

  24. Habbabkuk, November 25, 2:29 pm; yes, I do remember that, but if I remember rightly it was not always the case. That all gradually escalated after you made your stunning entrance sock-puppeting to rile an Israeli commenter, while a load of other rather aggressive commenters were arriving. Eventually things went a bit mad, peaking as Sharp Ears became critically ill, and you reached a crescendo of taunting her. At the same time we had RobG recommending that many people be shot.

    I feel that I understand such reactions, having experienced them myself. Sharp Ears is not obsessive. Rather, she is closely concerned in the struggle of the Palestinians. It is rather like my own position on the 9/11 thread because I have an interest in physics. It is simply the diversity of people in action.

  25. Peter Wetwick, you are psychologically abusing me.

    When I was of school age, it was normal in society to insult people by describing them as having physical disabilities. Words such as cripple, flid (thalidomide victim), paraplegic and spastic were regularly used as insults. Now let’s have a look at your 12:14 comment in that light.

    “Macky, I think it was a good idea of yours to save the recent delusional unravelling not for evidential purposes but just for entertainment value”

    While sucking up to Macky, you accuse me of “delusional unravelling”, and make it clear that your own opinion of mental illness is as a form of entertainment. Maybe you should try to travel backwards in time so you can find a freak show. Have you seen Elephant Man, I wonder?

    “you have forgotten that you are not teacher’s pet here and you are far more vulnerable”

    Ah, a threat. And how little you know!

    “I think you are seriously mentally ill and I think you make things worse for yourself by posting on blogs particularly CM”

    Yes, you’d like to drive me away, little man. But that’s exactly what I’ve been saying all along, isn’t it? One of the traits of conspiracy theorists (as opposed to sceptics of all narratives such as myself) is that they would rather not be challenged; they like to control the narrative. That’s because they are so cavalier with evidence, and they don’t like being shown up.

    “I think CM has a personal responsibility, him knowing full well your psychotic behaviour is exacerbated by your disturbed blog habits”

    Really Peter, you said you were a rocket engineer, not a psychiatric professional. MY doctor does not find me psychotic, and neither have any of the mental health professionals I have seen over the years, nor my friends in that profession either.

    “OK Mr fucking sock? I created those access id’s because I got barred from the CM blog”

    Try “IDs”; it’s your id that’s showing! Ah, so you deliberately circumvented a ban. Very good; not the least obsessional.

    “My polite objection was removed and I was barred leaving your deranged and depraved comment to continue to libel me”

    I predict that Macky will turn two blind eyes to the obvious psychological projection in that remark, and continue to inflate your little ego with ongoing sphincter massage. You either recognise it or choose not to. Prediction, of course, is the best test of theory.

    Polite? Readers may judge for themselves, thanks to Macky:

    https://squonk.tk/blog/2015/03/15/the-general-discussion-thread/comment-page-83/#comment-27195

    – “demonic, sick, self aggrandising, vile, sick and warped, hysterical unravellings, poison, goaded me with lies, you have one opportunity to appologise, insanity fuelled, Clark is sick, he’s also fucking horrible”…

    Yes, very fucking polite, Peeter. More threats, and another wish that I be silenced. Maybe someone like RobG should take me out and shoot me, yes? It’d be doing me a favour, I’m sure. I mean, it’s not a bit like you’re hoping to make me kill myself, is it? Abuser!

    “If you abuse me once more on here (or anywhere else )I will go back to the CM blog and make sure there is no meaningful output (hmmm!) for the next …………. as long as I decide”

    Ah, another threat, and you’re a control freak too, threatening collective punishment! Please feel free to get yourself banned at Craig’s, and good riddance.

    “I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON 911, I WANT TO FIND OUT”

    I don’t believe you, Peeter. I think you’re a no-planes conspiracy theorist.

    “Stay clear of me and you will hear nothing further from me; the alternative is I will keep telling you the extremely unpleasant truth about yourself”

    Heaven forbid that you should ever catch sight of yourself! The smellier the bumhole, the more Macky licks it. Do enjoy, good fellow x

  26. Oh, I missed an important point:

    “You then apologised and when I indicated I would leave you alone you retracted the apology”

    You were using a different username, remember? And a very misleading one, I believe.

    Projection: just because YOU knew it was you posting under that name doesn’t mean that I did. Remember little details like that; people might well see through you, but they can’t actually read your thoughts, and forgetting that might precipitate paranoia!

    Here’s an example of seeing through you. You looked at the NIST report and said it was unlikely that some landing gear could smash right through the building. Considering the preponderance of evidence, I suggested that the building probably offered less resistance than in the simulation, to which you muttered “grasping at straws”, without explaining why, of course.

    And that’s what makes me guess you’re a no-planer. Come on, own up!

  27. Clark

    “Rather, she is closely concerned in the struggle of the Palestinians. ”
    __________________

    Which explains her obsession about people’s Jewish origins, relations and friends ?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    BTW, the escalation you point to had nothing to do with my joke about a certain poster calling himself Oniel. The reason is much simpler : until I appeared, Mary was unused to being contradicted, she was very much the “queen bee” of CM’s blog, accustomed to having people like MacLies fawning over her every word. Then along came Habbabkuk, who was less than impressed by her and wasn’t afraid to say so. That’s what she couldn’t stand. Remember all the insults : “troll”, “fascist”, ” rascist” and so on?

  28. I don’t know why you have visited mental health over the years, I don’t want but perhaps its because you are mental.

    Lets go to the 2nd accusation in the above, (the1st is what you want not what you get)

    My comment to Macky was about Glen, fuck all to do with you, my comment to you was to you and stands. You’re interpretation that my comment to Macky was aimed at you when it clearly wasn’t confirms what I believe about you. You want attention, you want to ague the toss about bollocks, you believe things are being said about you when they are not, you think you are at the centre of every comment, you think you have decrypted the secret code that anti-semites communicate with on blogs, and only you and them can understand it………….. your’e a fucking nutter!

    And as such I will not respond directly to you again. You clearly will not leave me alone so I will make your ability to target me and others with your sick fantasies and disturbed abuse more difficult.

  29. Habbabkuk, I think you have had a good effect on Craig’s blog overall. It is true that too close a consensus had developed, and it needed to be challenged. I see this in hindsight, having seen what goes on on the 9/11 thread.

    But Mary had earned her position of respect nonetheless, as I’m sure other specialists have in other directions on other forums. Her knowledge of connections, her tenacious research, and her knowledge of where to find information on the Web.

    I can’t remember the exact sequence. But Macky has been a very unhealthy influence since its arrival, sucking up to various, encouraging rampant post-truth Putinism, and generally trying to usurp Craig from his own blog. A squatter, as you put it. Forever pouring fuel on the fire, Macky is the opposite of a peace activist. If peace were achieved between Israel and Palestine, Macky seems the sort who would go and shoot at both sides, as we saw at the critical moment in Ukraine.

    It is a great shame that tensions were running so high when you offered Mary an opening for debate on the Israel/Palestine conflict, many pages back on this very thread. But matters had gone to hell long since by then.

  30. Peter, it isn’t easy to get therapy. I got it because something affected me so deeply that I woke up from under anaesthetic on an operating table. I’ll give you a chance to redeem yourself; let’s see how you do. I had a lot of anger following the suicide of a girlfriend.

    As for anti-Semitism, after years of innuendo against me on the 9/11 thread, I met Paul Barbara face to face recently at the court, and in the pub afterwards he asked me outright if I was Jewish. Dave on the 9/11 thread has recommended an anti-Semitic book by an author of Holocaust denial, and KoWN has recommended another Holocaust denying author who also wrote that the Sandy Hook massacre was done by Mossad. KoWN produces a lot of unwarranted conspiracy theory, but all the people he has accused by name are Jewish. If you can’t see the anti-Semitism you need to take the blinkers off.

  31. And Habbabkuk, we should also remember that all has not been sweetness and light on “your side” either. The incident where Resident Dissident and ESLO were finishing each other’s conversations and then were suddenly revealed to have the same e-mail address was amusing more than anything, in hindsight, but of course it fuelled suspicions, just as Macky’s “front” identity is fuelling my suspicion now. We know that many entities, state and corporate, “our side” and “theirs”, run “boiler rooms” and suchlike social engineering operations; there’s bound to be suspicion.

    But you and RD should never have made common cause with Anon1. If we really want peace, we all need to work on the more extreme members of our own sides.

  32. First they came for the Conspiracy Theorists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Conspiracy Theorist.

    Then they came for the Liars, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Liar.

    Then they came for the Hypocrites, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Hypocrite.

    Then they came for the Anti-Semites, and I did not speak out—
    Well fair play to them, we are all fucking Anti-Semites now!

  33. Peter, I haven’t seen any anti-Semitism from you. But do beware of some of the conspiracy theories; I mean the unwarranted ones. I mean, when one author writes an article saying that Mossad did the Sandy Hook massacre, and then writes another article saying it was a hoax by FEMA, and the same author has written that the Holocaust never happened, I think a red light should come on in our heads, shouldn’t it?

    And when another author who denies the Holocaust also writes that Judaism itself was responsible for 9/11, that’s as bad as blaming Islam itself, isn’t it? If I’m wrong, please explain the difference.

    Anyway, no one’s come for anyone yet, have they? People who harass victims’ families have been prosecuted, but that’s as it should be.

  34. Someone who investigates links between Israel and 911 = Anti-Semite

    Someone who wants to learn what actually happened on 911 = Conspiracy Theorist

    Someone who supplies evidence that calls into doubt the official 911 narrative = Liar

    Person who believes perpetrators of 911 were of human origin = Racist

    Someone who thinks Explosive Demolition may have been involved on 911 = Fascist / Nazi

    Someone who doesn’t believe WTC & fell down because of fire = Fascist, Nazi, Racist, Lying, Conspiratorial, Theorising, Anti-Semite Bastard

  35. Peter, it’s so obvious that that is your opinion of my opinion, but it’s WRONG; you are MISREPRESENTING my position.

    When someone says that “Judaism itself” was the cause of 9/11, and they deny the Holocaust, I call them an anti-Semite. If the only people they can accuse of anything are Jews, I call that anti-Semitic. But I am well aware of apparent Israeli foreknowledge, and I will not call anyone anti-Semitic for pointing out the many Israeli “art student” secret agents. It’s the difference between accepting facts, and just pointing the finger at Jews for the sake of it.

    When someone amplifies rumours, or elevates small details out of context, I’ll call them a conspiracy theorist. Like your thing with the landing gear, or Paul Barbara’s thing with wing vortices. The preponderance of evidence indicates aircraft impacts.

    People who advance lies I’ll call liars. Simple. For instance, “the Twin Towers fell at free fall into their own footprints” are both lies. People who say the collapses of the Twin Towers contravened Newton’s laws are also liars, as are those who accuse me of pseudoscience yet refuse to engage in scientific discussion.

    People who gang up with anti-Semites to give me verbal kickings or say they want to shoot me I’ll call Nazis, because Nazis are what they most resemble.

    Those who insist that the Twin Towers couldn’t have suffered progressive collapse I call unobservant and ignorant, and those that insist that the entire global engineering and physics communities are all remaining silent about mass murder by demolition I call anti-intellectual.

    Now you can play the victim all you want, but I will not let you or the others abuse or intimidate me into accepting anti-Semitism, conspiracy theories or lies. I will not be made to leave either. YOU have been particularly horrible to me, concocting massive offence out of next to nothing while being highly offensive yourself, so I shall say you have a flawed character. But if you take a few deep breaths and calm down, you can change that, if you so choose.

  36. Hey Ben

    You feel comfortable with that? Do you? Feel better now?

    “Christ Almighty AA. Where the fuck are you?”

    I happen to be a Christian and your blasphemy is unacceptable. Not just to me but billions of Christians worldwide.

    That’s right use another invective to summon up your mate Squonk and make sure he knows that you don’t care about what Christians might think about your outburst, the most important thing is you can say what the fuck you like no matter how offensive and if someone introduces a grown up intellectual debate about the use and abuse of fabricated religious bear traps, you’re ok to display your contempt for Christian beliefs and demand censure of that academic debate.

    Its not a vile bigoted tag team its a fucking relay squad.

  37. Oops, sorry Ben. Seems I upset Peter again.

    Peter, try just having a normal conversation perhaps? You know, like back-and-forth, clarification of opinions and an exchange of ideas…

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